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Post by dragoneye on Aug 1, 2006 14:52:25 GMT -5
I dont know what is the matter with him... he could be hibernating i dont know, but like he has been laying in his cage for about a month (still alive) but his eyes are closed tightly, doesn't really move arround all that much, and hides under his moss....
the temperature is a steady 80 degrees ferintheight, and the humidity is between 70% and 80%
I know he isn't out durring the night either seeing as i am up till about 4am alot trying to get work done.
He is too small to feed mice to, so i feed him crickets. When i first got him, he would eat about 3 crickets with in about 5 min no problem... but now I dont think he really eats them... I put about 8 crickets in his tank so that he can get them when he wants to, but even then... the crickets just sit arround his water bowl all day and night and make the annoying chirp noise....
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Post by ChamZilla on Aug 1, 2006 20:09:55 GMT -5
I would make a call to a vet or get him into one. That doesn't sound good to me. He should be eating and if not, he should still be moving around. Could he have caughten a virus or something? He sounds ill as with temperatures like that he should be moving around or at least looking around. Have you weighted him before and now? I know its frog but I weigh my hedgehogs. Hope to hear back soon, maybe you could take some photos?
I think a vet is in order for sure, even if its just a phone call to see if someone somewhere can help you.
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Post by ChamZilla on Aug 1, 2006 20:37:07 GMT -5
Hey there I was just doing some reading about this frog and this is what I found.... Other than these frogs have teeth!
Heat/Light: Pac man frogs do best in a 9 - 12 hour photoperiod. Longer periods may cause them to stop eating. Fluorescent is preferred because incandescent may dry out the skin.
Diet: Feed a variety of crickets, fish and mice. Juveniles should be fed every 2 - 3 days. Adults should be fed once a week and then every 10 - 14 days, as it grows older. It is important to not feed prey items that are too large. Offered food should be no larger than half the size of the pac man frog. Use a vitamin and calcium supplement once weekly with juvenile pac man frogs and every 3 - 4 weeks with adults.
Crickets can be put in the aquarium and fish may be placed in the water dish or you can use small tongs or tweezers to hold the prey items in front of the horned frog.
Note: Pac man frogs will tend to bite anything that moves. Never use you bare hands when feeding to avoid bites. Many frogs are killed when a hand is quickly drawn away from a bite and the horned frog is flung against a wall.
Pacman frogs don’t hibernate, hibernation is left to the northern hemisphere. pacman frogs are tropical and if they bury for an extended period of time its called brumation. A lot of the time when they bury they are too dry. If you keep the cage moist he may not bury himself completely, only up to his eyes.
Well I am looking for how long it takes them to wake up when they get out of brumation. Hope this helps you some, sorry if it doesn't. I'll keep digging.
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Post by ChamZilla on Aug 1, 2006 21:12:01 GMT -5
OK I was looking around and asked some people and this is what one guy found out...
This was the most i could find :
Periodically during the year, your frog may go into a period of partial hibernation. During this period they will neither eat nor drink. They will not stay in their water bowl but instead bury themselves as much as possible beneath the foliage and substrate. Instead of shedding their skin, they retain it. It will harden up, giving your frog the appearance of being encased in plastic. Between this protective skin layer and the frog will be a thin layer of moisture; your frog will actually be taking in oxygen through his skin rather than breathing through its plugged nostrils. Do not disturb your frog when it is in this state. Estivation is done when the temperature becomes too hot or too cold for the animal's comfort. With ornates, it also happens for reasons we don't know about! Just keep the frog covered with his plant materials, keep fresh water in its bowl, and, as long as it is not losing any body mass, be patient. Eventually, when the ornate feels it is time, it will begin softening and shedding it protective covering, hop into its water, and be ready for a meal.
So does he have any of this "skin" on him? or anything like that?
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Post by dragoneye on Aug 3, 2006 10:44:25 GMT -5
Thanks so much!
it looks like its just mostly hardened or dry skin... nothing really different, but that DOES match the way he is acting...
another thing too... the cage has all moss in it other than his water dish... he refuses to go in his water dish though.... actually he hates it... i dont know... we make sure to spray his cage about 3-4 times a day to keep the moss moist, and we make sure its clean too at least once a week (otherwise the moss would start off dry again)
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