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SYDNEY
Jul 22, 2007 13:46:40 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 22, 2007 13:46:40 GMT -5
hi everyone, just to let you know sydney is possibly dieing,dont know why but its not unexpected really i suppose,since he's lived alot longer than he was supposed to.and despite all his problems he has come through most really well.this morning i fed him as usual and he ate a couple of tiny mealworms as usual.and seemed fine,then i went up to give gizmo her food and meds and sydney didnt look right,dont ask me why i just knew i took him out of his viv to check him over,his whole body looked twisted and his his back legs were twisted round each other. it looked really odd.i think it may be a stroke or fit or something,cos he seemed to get over it. then 2o seconds later he did it again,each time he did this he also chattered his jaw and attacked his own back legs and tail,and was biting hard,then i left him with heat pad but no light incase he was having a fit or something, seemed ok for about an hour.then again. im taking him to the vets tommorow if he's still live.cos i dont think its fair to keep him he seemed to improve well but if he's going to attack him self and loose all control of his body.What kind of life is he going to have.he brain damage and sight improved quite abit,he was even feeding himself.but obviously something has gone wrong again,well what evers meant to be.i will find out tomorrow.but i am not letting him suffer.if theres no treatment for whatever it is,but cos he's so small i dont know His problems from berore are mentioned in other threat (my beardies)in bearded dragons.well i suppose thats obvious lol
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SYDNEY
Jul 22, 2007 22:34:39 GMT -5
Post by ChamZilla on Jul 22, 2007 22:34:39 GMT -5
Well this is sad. Hopefully he either pulls through or is let to rest in peace. Seizures are no good expecially if he's haveing strokes or something like that. Let us know what the vet says. You should have called the emergency vet line at your vets as soon as it happened.
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SYDNEY
Jul 23, 2007 6:00:18 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 23, 2007 6:00:18 GMT -5
i dont mean to be rude,and if you think so sorry but i did call them.you say i should of called the emergency vet when i made an emergency appoiment ok.he's had an injection so we'll see how he goes,i only posted this as i thought it would interest some people,and i wondered if anyone knew/had heard of things like this before cos when i first got one of my females his mum.she had mbd and was twitching often.but she had several injections by the vet and is fine now.at first i wondered could syd have it also mbd i mean cos some of the syptoms seem the same but the jaw chattering,bending himself in half almost and wrapping both his back legs round each other all at the same time,then he gets hold of his tail and back legs and chomps on them the other day i thought maybe his legs hurt somehow as he was biting them.it looked like he was trying to remove his legs.the vet said it may be mbd but he has the correct lighting and heating in his viv,and his feeds are supplemented with calcium butb he has a very small amount cos he's tiny.the vet said that all sounds fine.but i wondered if it is mbd could the chattering,and biting and all that be linked cos he has a brain problem anyway,so he may react abit differently to when his mum had it got to take him again tomorrow for a check up
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SYDNEY
Jul 24, 2007 14:07:59 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 24, 2007 14:07:59 GMT -5
still not brilliant but i havent seen him biting his tail and legs or chattering today,so when i take him again for check poss tomorrow.but its looking better now than i thought the other day
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SYDNEY
Jul 24, 2007 15:03:52 GMT -5
Post by zachbaker on Jul 24, 2007 15:03:52 GMT -5
To me in doesnt sound like mbd but Im no vet so your vets advice would be the best for this issue.
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SYDNEY
Jul 24, 2007 16:15:07 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 24, 2007 16:15:07 GMT -5
they last few days he's been on calcium spray for reptiles,instead of his usual.as i asked the vet what he thought cos i don't know why i just had a feeling as well as his other problems maybe for what ever reason the powder dosent work for him seem to of help he was actually using his legs abit today again.and no chattering or attacking tail and legs,i dont think so don't know im just keeping an eye on him a close one at that.i mean considering he was only meant to live 1-2hrs approx after hatching and now he's over a the year i think he's done well ever .so whatever will be will be.
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SYDNEY
Jul 30, 2007 12:49:46 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 30, 2007 12:49:46 GMT -5
sydneys still not quite over the illness or what ever it was.but no more jaw chattering or trying to remove his back legs and tail.he still not as lively all the time.but he's eating on his own again not chasing tiny mealworms again though i put them right in front of him and he will then eat them as he's obviously abit weak still.got another appoinment on thursday.he's deffinitly a miricle lol i mean it he is,as he has lived so long considering he wasnt even meant to last an hour+ and now he's over a year
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SYDNEY
Jul 30, 2007 13:25:39 GMT -5
Post by prismwolf on Jul 30, 2007 13:25:39 GMT -5
The calcium spray isn't what the little guy needs. He needs the calcium powder you can sprinkle on the crix or the mealworms. The spray is not regulated in any way and nowhere is it stated the exact amount in each dose...what dose is right for the weight of the animal...etc. Using human grade calcium lightly dusted on it's food every few days is much safer and healthier...:-)
It's an easy fix and most health food stores will have it...:-D
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SYDNEY
Jul 30, 2007 13:36:24 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 30, 2007 13:36:24 GMT -5
my vet said use the spray as i was using the powder,nutrabol(probably spelt it wrong).and i thought everything was fine with it i dusted his tiny mealworms or salad with it .but the vets not sure what was wrong with him as he said the chatteringf his jaw and attacking his tail and back legs was very odd,but cos of his brain problem some of the things he was doing were a mystery in the way of why.the vet said maybe he wasnt depositing the powder to the right places.i dont know.but he said it may of been abit of mbd but not sure as some of the things he was doing were really weird.trying to remove his back legs and tail.or atleast thats what it looked like,then chattering his jaw and every so often after chattering,just holding it open as if his jaw had locked.
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SYDNEY
Jul 30, 2007 16:08:47 GMT -5
Post by prismwolf on Jul 30, 2007 16:08:47 GMT -5
You might want to mention to the vet then what I mentioned to you about the spray. It doesn't make any sense that if the dust wasn't being absorbed right...the unregulated and weaker strength of spray would do any better. There is a liquid calcium that works best...and it's something you can get through the Internet. I bought a fairly large bottle of calcium gluconate through a wildlife rehabilitator website. Very good oral supplement for rehabbing and calcium deficient animals. www.squirrelstore.com/site/744999/product/987-9642866You just need to get the right dosage to keep from overdosing...:-)
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SYDNEY
Jul 30, 2007 16:54:04 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 30, 2007 16:54:04 GMT -5
thanks i'll mention it and see,the one i was using which the vet said about says 3 drops every 2-3 days for calcium deficiant reptiles.but i said ok but sydneys so small so 3 seems way to much for him.so he said try him at just one small.drop ,seems to of help some how with whatever was the problem.what do you mean keep from overdosing,sorry not having a go but he's never been overdosed i always find out right amount.don't know if you meant him or not.just want to be sure ok.i even checked with the vet about the powder when i had to add it to his syringe feeds and stuff.because he's so small
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SYDNEY
Jul 30, 2007 19:08:07 GMT -5
Post by prismwolf on Jul 30, 2007 19:08:07 GMT -5
I never said he was overdosed...just cautioning against it.
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SYDNEY
Jul 30, 2007 19:57:18 GMT -5
Post by Patrick Kubeja on Jul 30, 2007 19:57:18 GMT -5
I agree With Prizm on this the powder is Better for him then a Spray,
Can I ask what kind of Spray you are using?
Patrick
Dusting Every other Day Should be Good!
Greens and Veggies as Well are really good For dragons to! I heard MealWorms are every high in Protien? I wonder if that is True?
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SYDNEY
Jul 31, 2007 11:32:55 GMT -5
Post by prismwolf on Jul 31, 2007 11:32:55 GMT -5
I agree With Prizm on this the powder is Better for him then a Spray, And the calcium gluconate is even better than the powder since it's in a gel form already. That gives it a faster form of usability...:-)
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SYDNEY
Jul 31, 2007 12:38:43 GMT -5
Post by reptileluvva on Jul 31, 2007 12:38:43 GMT -5
i checked out that link.have you used it with reptiles atall or anyone else.plus is it for adding to feed or injecting couldnt see anywhere unless i was looking at the wrong page .it say for squirrels
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